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Children's Pharmacist Panel

Amy Crawford

Undergrad at North Dakota

PG1 General

PG2 Children’s Pharmacy

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

Started at UW last summer

Jess Poehls

Originally from WI

Went to Drake Uni

PG1 Minnesota Children’s

PG2 Texas Children’s Hospital

Started at UW 2 years ago

Nathan Sippel

Undergrad at UW Greenbay

Pharmacy at UW Madison

PG1 Mayo

Started at UW 5 years ago

Brian Laroe

North Dakota State Pharmacy School

Originally from Montana

Residency at rural hospital in Fargo Minnesota

Went to get a masters.

Directory training program in Houston

Director of hospital in Baton Rouge but unstable company

Worked at Mayo after for 6 years, then switched to peds

Came to Madison in 1988

Enjoys the ICU but now works in the central pharmacy

Challenges in Peds:

  • Kids doses make everything more complex, can’t just half or third the dose (they are still developing!)

  • So many factors to consider (example: kids are 80% water, adults are 60%, affects water soluble drugs)

  • Literature is not as strong so takes a lot of personal judgement for decisions

  • Causing harm to children may seem more scary than elderly patients

  • What if they can’t take the medication? 3x a day will they be able to take it at school? Things to consider when deciding medication plan

How to get into Pediatric Pharmacy:

First year residency - more broad (like fourth year rotations on steroids), take this time to see what you like

Second year residency - more specific, in one or two areas, but find a hospital that has a developed program in the area you want to work in (example: PICU or NICU)

How to be more competitive for residency programs:

Maintain GPA, publishing, extracurricular or projects, leadership roles, volunteering in areas you are interested in, overall a wide range of experiences, work experience, internships, and who you know (get this by doing these things!)

Talking to pediatric patients… adults you talk to at a 6th grade health literacy level, pediatric matters more about their developmental stage with what age they are at.

Usual Day:

  • Come in the morning, see what patients are there, any admissions over night

  • Medication history when each patient comes in

  • Spend morning look at each patient's chart, why did they come here, pertinent issues, what medications they are taking, monitoring issues, labs, imaging, vital signs

  • Rounds when entire medical team meet outside each patient's room, talk about what happened (what brought them here, what happened the night before), new labs, any changes, come up with a plan for that day, opportunity to make recommendations or discuss issues found when looking at the patient's chart that morning

  • Verify orders from physician prescribed to patients before made in the hospital central pharmacy, can catch mistakes or wrong prescription

  • Lunch time either circling back to previous patients for followups, discharges to counsel on their new medications, make sure it’s correct for them to go home

  • Teaching with students, go to some meetings such as committee work

  • Hand off to evening person to any anticipated things and what is happening

You are the drug expert when you leave pharmacy school compared to first year medical interns that only took one or two semesters of pharmacology

You can look up information every day and may have to 6 - 7 times before it is engrained in your head. Lots of independent studying and staying on top of things compared to adult.

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